If Greivis Vasquez Doesn't Win ACC POY

**pvfan** · February 18th, 2010, 10:13 AM

ACC Stats Only:

PPG: Vasquez 21.5/Scheyer 18.8
Assists: Vasquez 6.4/Scheyer 4.8
FG %: Vasquez 47%/can't find Scheyer's he's not in the top ten
3 point%: 44.6/Scheyer 37.6

It's really not even close.

**CoeburnCane** · February 18th, 2010, 10:17 AM

Hate to toss a fly into your ointment, but Vasquez has those numbers b/c he's one of the only guys on Maryland's team with an offensive arsenal. Scheyer has Singler/Smith splitting stats with him. The argument has to be that Vasquez could put up the #'s Scheyer is with two other stat-eaters on his team, which I don't believe is the case.

**Biggin** · February 18th, 2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by CoeburnCane

Hate to toss a fly into your ointment, but Vasquez has those numbers b/c he's one of the only guys on Maryland's team with an offensive arsenal. Scheyer has Singler/Smith splitting stats with him. The argument has to be that Vasquez could put up the #'s Scheyer is with two other stat-eaters on his team, which I don't believe is the case.

That doesnt work like that.

Since Vasquez is UM;s only scorer, teams are scheming to stop him, since he is their only big threat, therefore he has to work 2x as hard for his points, unlike Scheyer, who has help on offense to keep the defenses from singling him out.

**gcdevil22** · February 18th, 2010, 04:28 PM

I don't care if Delaney doesn't win POY, but if he is left off the first team all-ACC it will be a joke

**1inStripes** · February 18th, 2010, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by gcdevil22

I don't care if Delaney doesn't win POY, but if he is left off the first team all-ACC it will be a joke

I couldn't disagree with that. I havent seen Tech play much, but every time I have, he stands out big time.

**yankeebaseball** · February 18th, 2010, 06:11 PM

They may wanna test him for steroids.

**CoeburnCane** · February 18th, 2010, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

That doesnt work like that.

Since Vasquez is UM;s only scorer, teams are scheming to stop him, since he is their only big threat, therefore he has to work 2x as hard for his points, unlike Scheyer, who has help on offense to keep the defenses from singling him out.

On the court, that's true. In statistics land where this thread was headed, what I said is right almost 100 times out of 100.

**R13** · February 18th, 2010, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

That doesnt work like that.

Since Vasquez is UM;s only scorer, teams are scheming to stop him, since he is their only big threat, therefore he has to work 2x as hard for his points, unlike Scheyer, who has help on offense to keep the defenses from singling him out.

It's actually the other way around most of the time, let the main guy get his, then shut down the lesser players...which is easier and smarter, instead of chasing one player around.

**Biggin** · February 18th, 2010, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by R13

It's actually the other way around most of the time, let the main guy get his, then shut down the lesser players...which is easier and smarter, instead of chasing one player around.

um, no. thats not true at all.

when a team relys on vasquez like UM does, you HAVE to stop him. if he gets off, UM wins more often than not.

at the NBA level it might be like that, but when a team relys on a player like UM does so hard, when he gets going the team gets going, and they are tough to beat.

when he is shut down, they lose more often than not.

**R13** · February 18th, 2010, 11:42 PM

If a player is a play-maker, he will find the open guy(which there will be probably every time down the court with that defensive strategy) and the rest of Marylands team can hit an open shot, no matter who they are. It's easier to shut down 3 other players, let Vasquez get his(not leave him unguarded or anything, but nothing focused) and the other have a decent IF he does. That makes sense when dealing with not a scorer, but an all around good play-maker. I have a hard time believing that there was teams that took that approach this year.